tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8733559733127645128.post7694222725001329177..comments2023-11-03T04:11:06.821-04:00Comments on The Hot Gates 480BC: The Campaigns Against the Western Manner of Learning to Read and Applying English GrammarPleistarchoshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11968310986316619625noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8733559733127645128.post-21943373274262910032013-05-06T07:14:23.152-04:002013-05-06T07:14:23.152-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04539802682318666959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8733559733127645128.post-2048669094349723942013-03-16T23:42:13.972-04:002013-03-16T23:42:13.972-04:00Sorry that I missed your comment and thus never re...Sorry that I missed your comment and thus never replied. I strongly agree with you. The word has to be put out in a manner that will not be stopped by the established powers in Academia. You gave me an idea for a new post.Pleistarchoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11968310986316619625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8733559733127645128.post-30328511659388100612012-11-24T10:22:09.602-05:002012-11-24T10:22:09.602-05:00Pleistarchos :
A very good read. I knew about t...Pleistarchos :<br /><br /><br />A very good read. I knew about this but was hard for me to understand until i read your blog article! <br /><br />I have an idea that i wish you or someone reading this would do: YouTube kids with the phonic-learned VS non-phonic-learned at whatever best grade level to demonstrate your findings. I visualize showing the two kid's groups word cards of unfamiliar words (maybe a little above the grade level) and asking them to<br />read aloud the words... If this demonstration already exists, i would like to view it. Thanks again. <br />netmaker at kcnet dot comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08310560233823462589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8733559733127645128.post-19386651926985455632012-05-23T19:46:45.162-04:002012-05-23T19:46:45.162-04:00Thanks very much.
I do fear that you are probably ...Thanks very much.<br />I do fear that you are probably right though. We have been purposely deprived of so much valuable information about Western Civilization that few have any idea of how our writing system came to be. Shortly after writing this post, I came across yet another teacher who had been raised on memorization. He was an intelligent, athletic guy and was also an avid hunter. When I brought up the topic, I sensed that he felt that his background was being slighted. Though he clearly was not trying to come across as a jerk, he nevertheless, in manner that I could only describe as both defensive and hurried, responded "Well you have to teach memorization". Since I had just met him that day, I opted to be as gentle as possible and replied that we should recall that for generations people learned to read without memorization. I added that traditionally, what we would now call sight words were taught after we were able to actually read. As an example, I cited what my first-grade teacher did with the word "one". She wrote the word on the board and asked if anyone knew what it was. I responded by reading it as "own". She stated that I was correct and added that this particular word was one for which the rules did not work and that it was pronounced "won or wun". I recall being perfectly happy being told that I had read the word properly and that we were now learning some words that we would have to memorize separately.Pleistarchoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11968310986316619625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8733559733127645128.post-71371846774388564142012-05-23T16:34:51.936-04:002012-05-23T16:34:51.936-04:00As I was reading this, I was thinking, what a grea...As I was reading this, I was thinking, what a great deal of valuable erudition the writer has collected.<br /><br /> My other main thought was more in the nature of a bet. I'll bet that if we went through the schools of education in this country, we would not find a single person there who knew this stuff. The odds are probably 100 to 1 in my favor if we're talking about the students. But even if we're talking about the professors, the odds are probably still 5 to 1. <br /><br />The point is, these so-called educators could not support all their flawed theories and methods if they were themselves educated, if they knew how phonetic languages have involved.<br /><br /> I recently had a professor from a school of education send me a letter explaining why children needed to learn the 300 most common words as sight-words. It used to be such professors wanted the kids to memorize ALL the words that way, which was quite insane. Now they've backed down to 300, which is quite sly. They seem to be making a concession to phonics; but the kids will still be messed up. These professors certify as true whatever pseudo-science they need to support their methods.<br /><br />Bruce Deitrick Price<br />Improve-Education.orgBruce Deitrick Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02881671487606709421noreply@blogger.com